Ok folks we have a good one here. Pickles (the kids named him)is a 12 year old gelding that stands just under 15 hands. He was a ranch gelding in his former life. He is just great with kids, and fun to ride. He is the kind of horse that judges his rider and behaves accordingly. His ground manners are great, he loads well, is good for the farrier and a nice general all around horse for anyone that wants a good natured, safe nice horse.